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		<title>By: OddThinking &#187; I Can&#8217;t See You, CUA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OddThinking &#187; I Can&#8217;t See You, CUA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have wanted to complete my migration from CUA to Bendigo Bank for some time. In fact, it was two-and-a-half years ago that I complained that my local Credit Union Australia (CUA) branch had closed, and that I was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have wanted to complete my migration from CUA to Bendigo Bank for some time. In fact, it was two-and-a-half years ago that I complained that my local Credit Union Australia (CUA) branch had closed, and that I was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid my happiness with Bendigo Bank is at an end. 

I got a letter yesterday saying that new charges and fees would now be placed on my Bendigo Blue (ATM) card, and my Red credit card. 

Blue card - $3 a month. Credit card - $45 a year annual fee.

I can change the Blue card to a fee-free cash card, but there are no such alternatives at Bendigo for a fee-free credit card. Looks like I&#039;ll be getting a Virgin card as well.

I just feel sorry for all the people in rural and regional towns that the big banks have deserted, and who have supported the spread and establishment of Bendigo Community Banks all over Victoria. 

For these people in isolated towns, there are no alternatives. They might not be able to get to the next biggest town to swap accounts. As it is, they show loyalty to Bendigo Bank and this is what they cop in return.

Its disgusting that Bendigo use the excuse of &quot;increasing costs of service provisions&quot; etc as the reason for the fee hikes. Last I looked Bendigo raked in $75 million in profit in the six months to December 2007, and were involved in taking over other banks. It doesn&#039;t sound like they are struggling for resources for mine.

Bendigo, this isn&#039;t how a true community bank would treat its customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid my happiness with Bendigo Bank is at an end. </p>
<p>I got a letter yesterday saying that new charges and fees would now be placed on my Bendigo Blue (ATM) card, and my Red credit card. </p>
<p>Blue card &#8211; $3 a month. Credit card &#8211; $45 a year annual fee.</p>
<p>I can change the Blue card to a fee-free cash card, but there are no such alternatives at Bendigo for a fee-free credit card. Looks like I&#8217;ll be getting a Virgin card as well.</p>
<p>I just feel sorry for all the people in rural and regional towns that the big banks have deserted, and who have supported the spread and establishment of Bendigo Community Banks all over Victoria. </p>
<p>For these people in isolated towns, there are no alternatives. They might not be able to get to the next biggest town to swap accounts. As it is, they show loyalty to Bendigo Bank and this is what they cop in return.</p>
<p>Its disgusting that Bendigo use the excuse of &#8220;increasing costs of service provisions&#8221; etc as the reason for the fee hikes. Last I looked Bendigo raked in $75 million in profit in the six months to December 2007, and were involved in taking over other banks. It doesn&#8217;t sound like they are struggling for resources for mine.</p>
<p>Bendigo, this isn&#8217;t how a true community bank would treat its customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezz</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-65889</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bendigo rules. I changed years ago when CBA decided to attempt extorting $60 a year out of me for the privilege of lending my money to someone else. I find (just as you do) that I rarely have to queue and having all branches open on Sat is awesome. Most people I tell refuse to leave the major banks, guess they like getting reamed? It&#039;s easy to stay under the $4 transaction limit by buying most things on a fee free credit card (Virgin), although sometimes you get funny looks whipping out the card for a $2 cheeseburger ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bendigo rules. I changed years ago when CBA decided to attempt extorting $60 a year out of me for the privilege of lending my money to someone else. I find (just as you do) that I rarely have to queue and having all branches open on Sat is awesome. Most people I tell refuse to leave the major banks, guess they like getting reamed? It&#8217;s easy to stay under the $4 transaction limit by buying most things on a fee free credit card (Virgin), although sometimes you get funny looks whipping out the card for a $2 cheeseburger <img src='http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-55260</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-- The envelope with my PIN for my new credit card never arrived (It was due around July 18.) This might be a postal error, rather than a bank error. Heck, it might be my error; I guess it is possible I threw it away unopened. However, my other financial institutions have awaited some form of signed acknowledgement that the PIN was received. Bendigo Bank didn&#039;t notice. Luckily I wasn&#039;t in a rush, and I had the card in my possession so I knew I wasn&#039;t being defrauded.
++ I visited the branch today. Two tellers, no queue, despite the fact that the shopping area was the most crowded I had ever seen in on a non-election day.
- I requested a replacement PIN, while in the branch. It will be sent to me in 5 days. Why can&#039;t I simply set it in the office in person? (Perhaps to protect against internal fraud?)
- I couldn&#039;t work out from the web-site how to automatically pay the balance of my credit card account from my savings account every month.
+ When I visited the branch, my request (to automatically pay off the balance) required the junior teller to double-check with a senior teller, as the process had recently changed, but the new process was painless, and was quickly sorted out.
- I took the opportunity to request that my savings account be associated with my credit card, so I only need carry one card in my wallet. There was some confusion about this, and the senior teller told me it wasn&#039;t possible. He then suggested I get a Visa debit card. (A Visa debit card doesn&#039;t meet my needs, so that was a waste of time.) 

I didn&#039;t really mind carrying two cards, so I left the branch moderately happy.

+/-- It turns out that it is possible to associate my two accounts on one card. (+ for being able to do it. -- for being given wrong information.)
++++ I found this out when the junior teller came up to me in the street as I left another shop two doors down. She assured me that not only was the association possible, but had been completed. 

Yes, the teller realising the mistake came around from behind the security screen, walked out of the bank and looked for me out on the street to apologise and make sure I understood my (mild) desire for a single card had actually been carried out.

I can&#039;t imagine tellers from the ANZ taking such a step. I was most impressed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; The envelope with my PIN for my new credit card never arrived (It was due around July 18.) This might be a postal error, rather than a bank error. Heck, it might be my error; I guess it is possible I threw it away unopened. However, my other financial institutions have awaited some form of signed acknowledgement that the PIN was received. Bendigo Bank didn&#8217;t notice. Luckily I wasn&#8217;t in a rush, and I had the card in my possession so I knew I wasn&#8217;t being defrauded.<br />
++ I visited the branch today. Two tellers, no queue, despite the fact that the shopping area was the most crowded I had ever seen in on a non-election day.<br />
- I requested a replacement PIN, while in the branch. It will be sent to me in 5 days. Why can&#8217;t I simply set it in the office in person? (Perhaps to protect against internal fraud?)<br />
- I couldn&#8217;t work out from the web-site how to automatically pay the balance of my credit card account from my savings account every month.<br />
+ When I visited the branch, my request (to automatically pay off the balance) required the junior teller to double-check with a senior teller, as the process had recently changed, but the new process was painless, and was quickly sorted out.<br />
- I took the opportunity to request that my savings account be associated with my credit card, so I only need carry one card in my wallet. There was some confusion about this, and the senior teller told me it wasn&#8217;t possible. He then suggested I get a Visa debit card. (A Visa debit card doesn&#8217;t meet my needs, so that was a waste of time.) </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really mind carrying two cards, so I left the branch moderately happy.</p>
<p>+/&#8211; It turns out that it is possible to associate my two accounts on one card. (+ for being able to do it. &#8212; for being given wrong information.)<br />
++++ I found this out when the junior teller came up to me in the street as I left another shop two doors down. She assured me that not only was the association possible, but had been completed. </p>
<p>Yes, the teller realising the mistake came around from behind the security screen, walked out of the bank and looked for me out on the street to apologise and make sure I understood my (mild) desire for a single card had actually been carried out.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine tellers from the ANZ taking such a step. I was most impressed!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-49656</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>++ In the last comment, I gave a negative because they hadn&#039;t responded to me for a week. I was right outside the bank today, so I popped in. Turns out they had responded promptly and left me not one but two messages. It was my own incompetence with my mobile phone that delayed me receiving the message. Mea culpa. Sorry, BB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>++ In the last comment, I gave a negative because they hadn&#8217;t responded to me for a week. I was right outside the bank today, so I popped in. Turns out they had responded promptly and left me not one but two messages. It was my own incompetence with my mobile phone that delayed me receiving the message. Mea culpa. Sorry, BB!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-49402</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been well over a year since I opened my Bendigo Bank account, and they have been bloody good so far. I am overdue to take the next step in the big move: get myself a credit card.

+ Went into the branch, and, as usual, was immediately greeted with no queue. 

+ Upon asking about credit cards, I was immediately handed a folder full of details and application forms. Some of the highlights were explained to me personally before I left the bank.

- There are a wide range of credit cards available, but despite having a &quot;comparison chart&quot; printed out from a web-site, the differences between them were small and hard to value. It took me a long time to work out what was right for me. Confusopolies are meant to apply &lt;em&gt;between&lt;/em&gt; banks, not inside a single bank.

- At one stage, it appeared that the most appropriate credit card to meet my needs had pictures of puppies on it. That may not seem like a problem to some people, but it caused me to ask myself difficult questions: How much would I be willing to pay in bank fees per year to &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; have puppies on my credit card. (Answer: About $10 per annum.)

- There was an unnecessary plethora of application forms asking for the same information, depending on which card you wanted. Some forms handled multiple card types, others were only required for puppy lovers. They could have consolidated it to one form.

- When I went in to apply, the procedure was slow and unnecessarily detailed. I understand you need to take care when providing credit, but the questions I was being asked seemed unnecessary given my credit history and the small amount of credit I was requesting. I had to wait for a long time while they photocopied my records going back 12 months. (Perhaps this serves me right for taking in more than the barest details!)

- It&#039;s been almost week. Still haven&#039;t received the approval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been well over a year since I opened my Bendigo Bank account, and they have been bloody good so far. I am overdue to take the next step in the big move: get myself a credit card.</p>
<p>+ Went into the branch, and, as usual, was immediately greeted with no queue. </p>
<p>+ Upon asking about credit cards, I was immediately handed a folder full of details and application forms. Some of the highlights were explained to me personally before I left the bank.</p>
<p>- There are a wide range of credit cards available, but despite having a &#8220;comparison chart&#8221; printed out from a web-site, the differences between them were small and hard to value. It took me a long time to work out what was right for me. Confusopolies are meant to apply <em>between</em> banks, not inside a single bank.</p>
<p>- At one stage, it appeared that the most appropriate credit card to meet my needs had pictures of puppies on it. That may not seem like a problem to some people, but it caused me to ask myself difficult questions: How much would I be willing to pay in bank fees per year to <strong>not</strong> have puppies on my credit card. (Answer: About $10 per annum.)</p>
<p>- There was an unnecessary plethora of application forms asking for the same information, depending on which card you wanted. Some forms handled multiple card types, others were only required for puppy lovers. They could have consolidated it to one form.</p>
<p>- When I went in to apply, the procedure was slow and unnecessarily detailed. I understand you need to take care when providing credit, but the questions I was being asked seemed unnecessary given my credit history and the small amount of credit I was requesting. I had to wait for a long time while they photocopied my records going back 12 months. (Perhaps this serves me right for taking in more than the barest details!)</p>
<p>- It&#8217;s been almost week. Still haven&#8217;t received the approval.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About BSB&#039;s again....You&#039;re right - very difficult to find the information on the website - had much more luck here!..after a Google search.
Hope it&#039;s 633 000 for ALL branches......????
Just trying to pay someone - so if anyone from BBank is reading this - get it clearly on the website!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About BSB&#8217;s again&#8230;.You&#8217;re right &#8211; very difficult to find the information on the website &#8211; had much more luck here!..after a Google search.<br />
Hope it&#8217;s 633 000 for ALL branches&#8230;&#8230;????<br />
Just trying to pay someone &#8211; so if anyone from BBank is reading this &#8211; get it clearly on the website!</p>
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		<title>By: OddThinking &#187; Candidates for the UI Disaster Museum</title>
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		<dc:creator>OddThinking &#187; Candidates for the UI Disaster Museum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The scene of the first: a local ATM machine outside a Bendigo Bank. I tried to withdraw $150, but I failed to remember that the machine, which only dispenses $20 and $50 notes, requires to me enter the amount to be withdrawn in cents. I accidentally entered $1.50, it displayed this dialog box. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The scene of the first: a local ATM machine outside a Bendigo Bank. I tried to withdraw $150, but I failed to remember that the machine, which only dispenses $20 and $50 notes, requires to me enter the amount to be withdrawn in cents. I accidentally entered $1.50, it displayed this dialog box. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-25879</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more note for commenters: This page is appearing on the first page of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Bendigo+Bank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google results&lt;/a&gt; for Bendigo Bank.

I imagine a few Bendigo Bank employees may have stumbled across it. Your comments on the bank may have more impact on readers if you include a disclaimer about your relationship with the bank.

I, for example, am merely a customer of Bendigo Bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more note for commenters: This page is appearing on the first page of the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Bendigo+Bank" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Google results</a> for Bendigo Bank.</p>
<p>I imagine a few Bendigo Bank employees may have stumbled across it. Your comments on the bank may have more impact on readers if you include a disclaimer about your relationship with the bank.</p>
<p>I, for example, am merely a customer of Bendigo Bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2006/02/17/an-ongoing-review-of-bendigo-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-25878</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy,

I don&#039;t occasionally make mistakes. I regularly and persistently &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/category/heroic-failures/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;make mistakes&lt;/a&gt;.

When I am designing systems that can seriously affect people&#039;s lives - say, for example, like systems that calculate someone&#039;s bank balance - I try to put in protections that prevent, detect and remedy errors. I do this because I know I make mistakes frequently, and I have never trusted anyone who claims that they are different.

Nonetheless, I have been suffered under financial institutions - even very big ones - that don&#039;t seem to have those levels of protection. (If they do have protections, it seems to be always in their favour, and never in the customers&#039;!) The number of their mistakes that impacted me was unacceptable, and I exercised the little power that I had: changing financial institutions.

So, my motivation of trialling Bendigo Bank was to see whether their systems were robust enough to give me a feeling of security - that my money wasn&#039;t going to be misplaced, and I wasn&#039;t going to be spending my spare time chasing up bank errors.

I would suggest that the quick handling of the DOB error, and the high quality support-call handling of the BSB issue would suggest that they have given this type of issue some careful thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t occasionally make mistakes. I regularly and persistently <a href="http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/category/heroic-failures/" rel="nofollow" class="liinternal">make mistakes</a>.</p>
<p>When I am designing systems that can seriously affect people&#8217;s lives &#8211; say, for example, like systems that calculate someone&#8217;s bank balance &#8211; I try to put in protections that prevent, detect and remedy errors. I do this because I know I make mistakes frequently, and I have never trusted anyone who claims that they are different.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I have been suffered under financial institutions &#8211; even very big ones &#8211; that don&#8217;t seem to have those levels of protection. (If they do have protections, it seems to be always in their favour, and never in the customers&#8217;!) The number of their mistakes that impacted me was unacceptable, and I exercised the little power that I had: changing financial institutions.</p>
<p>So, my motivation of trialling Bendigo Bank was to see whether their systems were robust enough to give me a feeling of security &#8211; that my money wasn&#8217;t going to be misplaced, and I wasn&#8217;t going to be spending my spare time chasing up bank errors.</p>
<p>I would suggest that the quick handling of the DOB error, and the high quality support-call handling of the BSB issue would suggest that they have given this type of issue some careful thought.</p>
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