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Bloglines Networking Issue

STOP PRESS: See the comments near the end that suggest that perhaps this isn’t really a Bloglines issue.

I am encountering a weird networking problem with Bloglines.

The Bloglines web-site appears to be up, but it doesn’t seem to want to talk to me. Did I say something too nasty last time I was freedbacking?

The web-site is working fine (including responding to web-requests and to pings) when I contact it from:

  1. another machine on another ISP,
  2. via an anonymous proxy on my machine,
  3. on my machine, as long as I VPN into another network.

However, when I contact it directly, my packets disappear somewhere on the other side of the Earth.

Here’s an example:

Ping result from Nwtools.com:

Ping 65.214.39.152
[bloglines.com]

Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 57 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 56 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 57 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 55 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 56 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 57 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 56 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 57 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 57 ms
Round trip time to 65.214.39.152: 55 ms

Average time over 10 pings: 56.3 ms

Ping result from my machine:

>ping bloglines.com

Pinging bloglines.com [65.214.39.152] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 65.214.39.152:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Now check this out:

Traceroute result from Nwtools.com:

TraceRoute to 65.214.39.152 [bloglines.com]

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 0 0 0 66.98.244.1 gphou-66-98-244-1.ev1.net
2 0 0 0 66.98.241.16 gphou-66-98-241-16.ev1.net
3 0 0 0 66.98.240.5 gphou-66-98-240-5.ev1.net
4 1 3 1 129.250.10.189 ge-2-0-0.r02.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
5 24 10 9 129.250.5.30 as-0.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
6 10 9 9 129.250.3.21 p16-0-0-0.r00.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net
7 11 10 61 204.255.174.229 0.so-0-1-0.br6.dfw9.alter.net
8 12 10 11 152.63.103.77 0.so-3-3-0.xt2.dfw9.alter.net
9 54 54 55 152.63.21.73 0.so-6-1-0.xl2.bos4.alter.net
10 54 55 55 152.63.16.134 0.so-7-0-0.xr2.bos4.alter.net
11 69 55 57 152.63.29.221 0.so-7-0-0.wr2.bos6.alter.net
12 55 57 57 63.111.123.34 so-1-0-0.ur2.bos6.web.wcom.net
13 57 56 56 208.254.32.53 -
14 57 56 57 65.214.32.81 -
15 57 56 57 65.214.39.152 web.bloglines.com

Trace complete

Expurgated Traceroute result from my machine:

>tracert bloglines.com

Tracing route to bloglines.com [65.214.39.152]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms You don't
2 14 ms 13 ms 12 ms need to
3 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms know this part
4 175 ms 172 ms 173 ms gi0-0.bdr1.syd6.agile.on.net [150.101.199.232]
5 174 ms 171 ms 173 ms pos2-0.bdr1.lax1.agile.on.net [203.16.213.177]
6 172 ms 172 ms 171 ms GigabitEthernet3-2.GW1.LAX15.ALTER.NET [208.222.8.93]
7 173 ms 172 ms 173 ms 0.so-2-0-0.CL1.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.115.210]
8 253 ms 253 ms 251 ms 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.129]
9 265 ms 252 ms 250 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XR1.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.122]
10 253 ms 253 ms 254 ms 0.so-7-0-0.WR1.BOS6.ALTER.NET [152.63.29.217]
11 255 ms 253 ms 255 ms so-1-0-0.ur1.bos6.web.wcom.net [63.111.123.30]
12 255 ms 253 ms 255 ms 208.254.32.37
13 252 ms 252 ms 252 ms 65.214.32.81
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

It looks like on the last hop in the Bloglines network it either it is blocking stuff from my IP address, or I am blocking stuff from its IP address.

I have checked my router configuration, and I can’t see any thing firewally that might be getting in the way. I haven’t installed anything special recently (except Windows patches).

I’m sorry, Bloglines, but I have just started a FeedDemon trial because blog-reading is now a mission-critical application for this machine. I haven’t reported this directly to you, because I have no connectivity to you – it’s all too hard.

Can anyone get me back onto the straight and narrow before I fork out $US30?

Coda

Update 1: When I swap my newish Billion ADSL Router out and put my old D-Link ADSL modem in its place, Bloglines works fine. Swap back and it is broken again. Unfortunately, I just promised earlier this week to give away my unneeded D-Link modem to a friend!

Update 2: I have made my home machine a DMZ Host within the Billion router, as suggested by Alastair in a private communication. That has fixed the problem (at the cost of making my Windows machine less stealthy) but I still don’t really know why, nor what Bloglines is doing that is different to other sites. Thanks, Alastair.


Comments

  1. That is pretty wierd. Of course I am on the same ISP as you, and here’s what I get:

    Tracing route to bloglines.com [65.214.39.152]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
    2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms Also
    3 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms Elided
    4 17 ms 17 ms 16 ms
    5 175 ms 176 ms 175 ms gi0-0.bdr1.syd6.agile.on.net [150.101.199.232]
    6 174 ms 175 ms 175 ms pos1-0.bdr1.lax1.agile.on.net [203.16.213.149]
    7 176 ms 176 ms 174 ms GigabitEthernet3-2.GW1.LAX15.ALTER.NET [208.222.8.93]
    8 176 ms 175 ms 176 ms 0.so-2-0-0.CL1.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.115.210]
    9 255 ms 254 ms 253 ms 0.so-6-0-0.XL1.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.129]
    10 254 ms 254 ms 255 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XR1.BOS4.ALTER.NET [152.63.16.122]
    11 256 ms 256 ms 258 ms 0.so-7-0-0.WR1.BOS6.ALTER.NET [152.63.29.217]
    12 256 ms 257 ms 256 ms so-1-0-0.ur1.bos6.web.wcom.net [63.111.123.30]
    13 258 ms 255 ms 256 ms 208.254.32.37
    14 254 ms 252 ms 254 ms 65.214.32.81
    15 255 ms 255 ms 256 ms web.bloglines.com [65.214.39.152]

    So the only difference is the last hop. Which makes me wonder if your router is rejecting the ICMP echo response packet returned by bloglines. Of course the responses up until that point are all TTL expired ICMP packets.

    If it were me, I’d be setting up an iptables rule on the router to log incoming ICMP packets.

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