Comments on: Installing in Unison http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/ A blog for odd things and odd thoughts. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:21:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Futal http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-217849 Futal Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:48:05 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-217849 It seems the difficulty mainly comes from Unison developpers, not from Linux. It's equally hard to install it on Windows. The Windows installer requires to install a library and add it to the Path!? WTF. I know where the Path is configured in Linux but I have no idea where it is in Windows. The developpers probably do want users to use it... It seems the difficulty mainly comes from Unison developpers, not from Linux. It’s equally hard to install it on Windows. The Windows installer requires to install a library and add it to the Path!? WTF. I know where the Path is configured in Linux but I have no idea where it is in Windows. The developpers probably do want users to use it…

]]> By: Mark http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-120089 Mark Mon, 19 May 2008 16:56:20 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-120089 Someone asked me, out of the blue, as they are wont: Mark, what is Unison? I know the answer, I always know the answer, well google helps me a little, but the answer will be forthcoming. Anyway, google did help, it sent me here. Funny how I move to the UK and the answer to a question asked of me is provided by someone I know in Sydney :P Someone asked me, out of the blue, as they are wont: Mark, what is Unison? I know the answer, I always know the answer, well google helps me a little, but the answer will be forthcoming.

Anyway, google did help, it sent me here. Funny how I move to the UK and the answer to a question asked of me is provided by someone I know in Sydney :P

]]> By: OddThinking » Recent Down-Times, An Exploration http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-49367 OddThinking » Recent Down-Times, An Exploration Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:59:00 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-49367 [...] originally guessed that the problem might be related to the use of Unison, and I was going to get around to work out how to “nice” [...] [...] originally guessed that the problem might be related to the use of Unison, and I was going to get around to work out how to “nice” [...]

]]> By: Julian http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-35082 Julian Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:16:53 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-35082 I'm sorry. I would like to repudiate my anti-Linux comment. I was merely sniping because I was frustrated. I should have seen it for that, and removed it. It wasn't my intention to suggest that the Windows was somehow less mired in this swamp. I am just whinging here, not amassing troops at the border of an OS war. Aristotle, <blockquote>rsync has always Just Worked for me</blockquote> My understanding is that <code>rsync</code> is uni-directional, where <code>unison</code> is bi-directional. I do edit in both places when I am hacking on my home software. Perhaps I should look at my workflow; it is not something I would do on a "real" production system. <blockquote>apt-get install rsync</blockquote> On my web-host, <code>apt-get</code> gives a "command not found" error. I don't know that my "package manager of choice" would/could/should be. I am a Unix/Linux user, not an administrator. (I have no idea whether <code>apt-get</code> would work as someone without root access. Richard, Unison is very version-sensitive. The Cygwin binaries you reference are for 2.17. The Windows binaries which I originally found were for 2.10. The ones you found are for 2.26 and 2.27; if I had found them myself that would have saved at least half of the effort! I might install those soon, just to check out the GUI version. The Linux version I installed was 2.26 (because I didn't find the 2.27 source until later!) <blockquote>How is IE involved here? Is that just an ugly replacement for “telnet [addr] [testport]”?</blockquote> No, it was just to download the .tar.gz source files. I’m sorry. I would like to repudiate my anti-Linux comment. I was merely sniping because I was frustrated. I should have seen it for that, and removed it. It wasn’t my intention to suggest that the Windows was somehow less mired in this swamp. I am just whinging here, not amassing troops at the border of an OS war.

Aristotle,

rsync has always Just Worked for me

My understanding is that rsync is uni-directional, where unison is bi-directional. I do edit in both places when I am hacking on my home software. Perhaps I should look at my workflow; it is not something I would do on a “real” production system.

apt-get install rsync

On my web-host, apt-get gives a “command not found” error. I don’t know that my “package manager of choice” would/could/should be. I am a Unix/Linux user, not an administrator. (I have no idea whether apt-get would work as someone without root access.

Richard,

Unison is very version-sensitive.

The Cygwin binaries you reference are for 2.17.

The Windows binaries which I originally found were for 2.10. The ones you found are for 2.26 and 2.27; if I had found them myself that would have saved at least half of the effort! I might install those soon, just to check out the GUI version.

The Linux version I installed was 2.26 (because I didn’t find the 2.27 source until later!)

How is IE involved here? Is that just an ugly replacement for “telnet [addr] [testport]”?

No, it was just to download the .tar.gz source files.

]]> By: Sunny Kalsi http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-35020 Sunny Kalsi Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:00:58 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-35020 apt-get install unison. At least you CAN install unison from source on a linux box. Try doing the same in Windows - you'll just find a whole bunch of software you don't have installed. Compiling stuff is not your responsibility as a user. If you didn't have packages then it was officially "not supported on your platform". apt-get install unison.

At least you CAN install unison from source on a linux box. Try doing the same in Windows – you’ll just find a whole bunch of software you don’t have installed. Compiling stuff is not your responsibility as a user. If you didn’t have packages then it was officially “not supported on your platform”.

]]> By: Richard http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-34884 Richard Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:17:41 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-34884 And the cygwin unison <a href="http://cygwin.com/cgi-bin2/package-cat.cgi?file=unison2.17%2Funison2.17-2.17.1-1&grep=unison" rel="nofollow">binary package</a> didn't work for you? Or the <a href="http://alan.petitepomme.net/projets/unison/index.html" rel="nofollow">Windows binaries</a>? However, I agree that working with these environments is more complex than you'd want. Ocaml make files? <i>shudder</i> How is IE involved here? Is that just an ugly replacement for "telnet [addr] [testport]"? A quick note on the cygwin homedir setting: this all depends on how you've set up your /etc/passwd file. Before you import your windows userlist, everyone automatically gets a homedir of C:\Documents and Settings\[name]. After import, that dir switches to C:\cygwin\home\[name]. For convenience and some consistency with other Unix tools ported to windows (I'm looking at you, XEmacs) I've remapped the cygwin home dir back to that documents and settings dir. Extremely well behaved windows apps (at least those that follow the XP installation style) will call %APPDATA% or a subdir under there home. And the cygwin unison binary package didn’t work for you? Or the Windows binaries?

However, I agree that working with these environments is more complex than you’d want. Ocaml make files? shudder

How is IE involved here? Is that just an ugly replacement for “telnet [addr] [testport]“?

A quick note on the cygwin homedir setting: this all depends on how you’ve set up your /etc/passwd file. Before you import your windows userlist, everyone automatically gets a homedir of C:\Documents and Settings\[name]. After import, that dir switches to C:\cygwin\home\[name]. For convenience and some consistency with other Unix tools ported to windows (I’m looking at you, XEmacs) I’ve remapped the cygwin home dir back to that documents and settings dir. Extremely well behaved windows apps (at least those that follow the XP installation style) will call %APPDATA% or a subdir under there home.

]]> By: Aristotle Pagaltzis http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-34872 Aristotle Pagaltzis Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:45:56 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-34872 Yeah, those open source shoestring cobblers are ridiculous. The other day I installed a cross-platform Microsoft application on a Linux server and the Windows counterpart on my laptop and then got them talking to each other without any effort. *cough* FWIW, rsync has always Just Worked for me and it’s just one <code>apt-get install rsync</code> away. (Or whatever your package manager of choice.) The MacOS X base system comes with rsync included, I hear. If you want to stick to Windows, though, that’s your prerogative. Yeah, those open source shoestring cobblers are ridiculous. The other day I installed a cross-platform Microsoft application on a Linux server and the Windows counterpart on my laptop and then got them talking to each other without any effort. *cough*

FWIW, rsync has always Just Worked for me and it’s just one apt-get install rsync away. (Or whatever your package manager of choice.) The MacOS X base system comes with rsync included, I hear.

If you want to stick to Windows, though, that’s your prerogative.

]]> By: Alastair http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/comment-page-1/#comment-34791 Alastair Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:21:03 +0000 http://www.somethinkodd.com/oddthinking/2007/04/10/installing-in-unison/#comment-34791 If this is a joke, I don't get it. <blockquote>I’ve heard people claiming that installing software on Linux is easy now. I’m thinking not so much. The amount of background knowledge that was required to install Unison was immense.</blockquote> So knowledge of Windows shortcuts (and many other Windows- and Cygwin-specific things) is "needed" in order to install Unison on Linux? WTF? Please explain. If this is a joke, I don’t get it.

I’ve heard people claiming that installing software on Linux is easy now. I’m thinking not so much. The amount of background knowledge that was required to install Unison was immense.

So knowledge of Windows shortcuts (and many other Windows- and Cygwin-specific things) is “needed” in order to install Unison on Linux? WTF?

Please explain.

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