{"id":625,"date":"2008-09-27T13:40:05","date_gmt":"2008-09-27T03:40:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.somethinkodd.com\/oddthinking\/?p=625"},"modified":"2008-09-17T13:43:19","modified_gmt":"2008-09-17T03:43:19","slug":"the-2008-big-clean-off","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.somethinkodd.com\/oddthinking\/2008\/09\/27\/the-2008-big-clean-off\/","title":{"rendered":"The 2008 Big Clean-Off"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s get all domestic, and scientific.<\/p>\n<h4>Introduction<\/h4>\n<p>I have a cleaning problem area in my bathroom; the glass shower screen. No, I don&#8217;t think it is covered in mould. Instead, it appears to be covered in tiny round marks where drop have dried up and left behind grey discolouration. I suspect it is salts from the hardness in the water (Calcium? Magnesium?), but the water isn&#8217;t that hard here, so maybe I am mistaken and it is soap scum. Wait&#8230; maybe that&#8217;s the same thing? I forget my Year 10 chemistry.<\/p>\n<p>Until now, I have thought that the best product for removing it has been CLR. It is also has the most obnoxious fumes, to the point of giving me coughing fits.<\/p>\n<p>I was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.somethinkodd.com\/oddthinking\/2008\/09\/25\/long-handled-surface-cleaning-system-a-review\/\">recently<\/a> given a sample bottle of a cleaning product that was recommended for this problem. <\/p>\n<p>Does it really work better? That sounds like a scientific hypothesis.<\/p>\n<p>There is only one way to find out. Time for an experiment.<\/p>\n<h4>Method and Results<\/h4>\n<p>I sectioned off areas of the glass, wiped them down quickly with a paper towel to remove any dust, pulled out all the cleaning products from under my sink that I thought might help, and gave them each a try. I followed the directions, let them sit for a few minutes then rinsed off the glass, let it dry, and rated the results by appearance and by the amount of ardour and hardship I had to go through to achieve that result.<\/p>\n<table class=\"simple\">\n<tr>\n<th>Product<\/th>\n<th>Active Ingredients<\/th>\n<th>Applicator<\/th>\n<th>Application<\/th>\n<th>Ardour Endured<\/th>\n<th>Result<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Control 1: No action<\/th>\n<td>placebo<\/td>\n<td>none<\/td>\n<td>no action<\/td>\n<td>none<\/td>\n<td>no change visible<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Control 2: Water and scrubbing<\/th>\n<td>H<sub>2<\/sub>O and elbow grease<\/td>\n<td>scouring pad<\/td>\n<td>rubbed the glass with wet scouring pad<\/td>\n<td>mild physical effort<\/td>\n<td>slightly cleaner than Control 1, but not much.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Windex Window cleaner<\/th>\n<td>unspecified (believed detergent and alcohol)<\/td>\n<td>spray gun + paper towel<\/td>\n<td>sprayed the glass, and then immediately wiped with towel<\/td>\n<td>light physical effort<\/td>\n<td>there appeared to be a change to the pattern of the marks, but it wasn&#8217;t much of an overall improvement.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>CLR (Calcium Lime Rust, Bathroom and Kitchen Cleaner Deodouriser)<\/th>\n<td>Glycolic Acid (?)<\/td>\n<td>spray gun<\/td>\n<td>sprayed glass patchily (ran out of product), waited few minutes and rinsed off<\/td>\n<td>pungent fumes took layer off my lung linings<\/td>\n<td>where the foam had touched the glass, it was quite clean<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Generic-Brand White Vinegar<\/th>\n<td>Acetic acid<\/td>\n<td>paper towel<\/td>\n<td>wiped glass with product-soaked paper towel<\/td>\n<td>light physical effort<\/td>\n<td>no change from control 1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Generic-Brand Mould Killer<\/th>\n<td>Sodium Hypochlorite, Sodium Hydroxide and Sodium Chloride<\/td>\n<td>spray bottle<\/td>\n<td>sprayed glass, waited a few minutes, rinsed off<\/td>\n<td>unpleasant odour<\/td>\n<td>cleaner than control 1 &#038; 2, but not clean<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Generic-Brand bleach-based Domestic Cleanser<\/th>\n<td>Sodium Hypochlorite and Sodium Hydroxide<\/td>\n<td>paper towel<\/td>\n<td>wiped glass with product-soaked paper towel<\/td>\n<td>light physical effort, unpleasant odour<\/td>\n<td>cleaner than control 1 &#038; 2, but not clean<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>HypoKlean<\/th>\n<td>unspecified (but includes some bleach)<\/td>\n<td>paper towel<\/td>\n<td>wiped glass with product-soaked paper towel<\/td>\n<td>mild physical effort<\/td>\n<td>cleaner than control 1 &#038; 2, but not clean<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th>Generic-Brand Cream Cleanser<\/th>\n<td>unspecified (presumably detergent and grit)<\/td>\n<td>scouring pad<\/td>\n<td>rubbed the glass with product-soaked scouring pad; once rinsed, it needed another wipe down with a clean cloth to remove the filmy white residue<\/td>\n<td>mild physical effort<\/td>\n<td>quite clean<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h4>Discussion<\/h4>\n<ol>\n<li>For years I have been annoyed at anti-mould product labels that warn to only use them in a well-ventilated area. If it was well-ventilated, I wouldn&#8217;t need the product!<\/li>\n<li>CLR fumes have the power to force me to evacuate the room, gasping for fresh air. Yet its label claims that it &#8220;deodorises&#8221; and that it has a &#8220;fresh scent&#8221;. Bah!<\/li>\n<li>I am not sure about the active ingredient in CLR. It claims not to contain any ammonia, phosphate or bleach. It mentions containing <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Glycolic_acid\" title=\"Wikipedia definition of Glycolic_acid\" class=\"wikipedia\">Glycolic Acid<\/a> in the poisons information, but I am not sure if that is a cleaning agent.<\/li>\n<li>Us scientists aren&#8217;t scared off when the instructions say not to mix the cleansers!<\/li>\n<li>White Vinegar did nothing. Take that, all those hippies who recommend vinegar to solve virtually every cleaning issue.<\/li>\n<li>Scrubbing (with water) doesn&#8217;t help much, so elbow grease alone isn&#8217;t the answer.<\/li>\n<li>CLR really does work, and without requiring physical effort.<\/li>\n<li>HypoKlean may smell better than bleach, but it doesn&#8217;t clean any better in this application; certainly not worth a special trip to buy it.<\/li>\n<li>Mould killer, while not successful, did have some effect over Control 1. Does that  suggest that the stains are mould-related, despite my beliefs? Or does the active ingredients in mould killer have an effect on non-mould-related stains?<\/li>\n<li>Cream cleanser was a surprising success; I really didn&#8217;t expect it would do better than the bleaches (including the mould-killer).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h4>Conclusions<\/h4>\n<p>If I want my shower glass clean, I need to either use CLR and risk emphysema, or go to the old trusty bottle of cream cleanser and start scouring.<\/p>\n<p>As you may have guessed, the entire experimental area has been re-cleaned with the cream cleanser.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who wants to reproduce these results is welcome to come and clean my bathroom.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is the best cleaning solution for glass in my bathroom? 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